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“Think about it. Liberals think we are too mean to terrorists and we need to treat them with more respect because after all they are human, too. The Jane Fonda’s of our society need to shut the hell up and realize they are part of the problem. Looking back over the last ten to fifteen years the face of the Democratic Party has changed dramatically. There was a point in time the Democratic Party represented the working people, the good ole boys of society, but now more and more people are switching parties to the Republican/Conservative side, the Silent Majority. Why? Simply because of people like Michael Moore, John Kerry, Al Gore, just to name a few. There should really be two Democratic Parties, the true Democrats and then the Liberals. This would cover your socialist, your Hollywood Left and your plain old nut jobs and true Democrats would not have to associate with the others (Liberals) when they (Liberals) speak out against
posted by Diego @ 9:42 PM
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America will be better when a democrat is in office.
So you are telling me that Liberals don't think we are being too mean to terrorists? Listening to the commentaries they give helps define who they are, my descriptions are far from a 'fictional "liberal"' as you say based on what they (Liberals) have been quoted as saying.
Liberals think we are too mean to terrorists and we need to treat them with more respect because after all they are human, too.
You cant take what one person says about another and generalize it to one group of people.
I believe this Blog has nothing but "liberal" envy.
What's up with this:
I thought conservatives didn't like it when "liberals" answer a question with a question. Stand by what you say, conservatives. If you can't stand by what you say then don't tell other people how to answer your questions.
Look at the NY Times (Liberal media) discussing in numerous articles about the unfair treatment of these detainees.
This is from Richard Miniter, a best selling author and adjunct fellow at the Hudson Institute:
" The high-minded critics who complain about torture are wrong. We are far too soft on these guys - and, as a result, aren't getting the valuable intelligence we need to save American lives.
The politically correct regulations are unbelievable. Detainees are entitled to a full eight hours sleep and can't be woken up for interrogations. They enjoy three meals and five prayers per day, without interruption. They are entitled to a minimum of two hours of outdoor recreation per day.
Interrogations are limited to four hours, usually running two - and (of course) are interrupted for prayers. One interrogator actually bakes cookies for detainees, while another serves them Subway or McDonald's sandwiches. Both are available on base. (Filet o' Fish is an al Qaeda favorite.)
Interrogations are not video or audio taped, perhaps to preserve detainee privacy. "
Many came from living like barbarics and now they're treated like this, is there really abuse?
This from anonymous who obviously is chicken shit to really disclose who he/she is, said this, "I thought conservatives didn't like it when "liberals" answer a question with a question. Stand by what you say, conservatives. If you can't stand by what you say then don't tell other people how to answer your questions".
Hey bucko...I've seen no indication of this site backing down, but it is quite enjoyable watching Libs get their panties all in a wad on here!!!!
As I've said before and I'll say it again...just because a few people say one thing does not mean that it applies to the whole group.
How many times do I have to say it...and as for Nick...I enjoy watching conservatives like you take offense at everything.
I don't know how many of you watch 'Amazing Race' on CBS but I am so glad tonight's team eliminated were those 'Praise Allah' fuckers. Do they get 72 virgins for being eliminated? I'm loving it!
I did just a little bit of searching and here's a site that I found which disproves your wanna be point that Liberals are not speaking out about the treatment...I'll copy part of what I found and leave the link for you to check out.
Obviously there is more here, but I just wanted to disprove your 54 years of thinking...
"The tyrannical nature of, and barbaric practices at, Guantanamo Bay must stop. No one who believes in the moral greatness of America, and certainly no one who believes in the moral teachings of Jesus, can believe otherwise. But the detention of irregular soldiers and suspected terrorists at Guantanamo Bay serves an indispensable function in the defense of the United States against a barbarian foe. So although we cannot allow Guantanamo to function as it has, neither can we close it.
Mend it, don't end it, ought to be the slogan here. A short slate of reforms would get fix the situation at Guantanamo without endangering the crucial work of disrupting terrorism:
1. Stop prisoner abuse.
2. Define the crimes of terrorism and ununiformed combat.
3. Establish tribunals for adjudicating prisoner detentions.
4. Negotiate bilateral treaties governing the adjudication of these cases.
5. Establish a permanent, dedicated detention center on U.S. soil.
First, the torture must stop. Period. And yes, chaining people to the floor in their own filth is torture. Yes, adjusting the temperature of unlit solitary-confinement cells to cause pain is torture. Yes, threatening violence is torture. And yes, subjecting people to deafening noise or music is torture. Our government condemns these practices when Communist China or Islamist Iran does them. The civilized world condemns these things when we do them.
Here is a simple rule: We will treat even captured terrorists as we would like terrorists to treat captured American soldiers. Anything we would not allow terrorists to do to an American prisoner, we will not do to a suspected terrorist in American custody.
We must have faith that our own moral standards are a strength we should exercise, not a weakness we must overcome. "
Here's the article
Here's another site to check out from the blogosphere of the Internet.
You were saying?
Or yet another site...
It feels good to be Right
Thank you Captain Obvious and now for aaronbarlow, here is just a portion of what I found...
"The Guantanamo Human Rights Commission with its partner organisations, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) and National Council of Churches USA (NCC), aims to put pressure on President George Bush, the US Government and American lawmakers to treat the Guantanamo Bay prisoners according to the standards of American and International law."
Straight from the Guantanamo Human Rights Commission web site. The commission is made up of the ACLU and provides the terrorists with lawyers...yep ACLU lawyers.
Here's the Link
I can keep doing more searches if you'd like...
Yet another one
Here's one from Senator Patrick Leahy,"...the administration has not lived up to its promise to treat
detainees humanely. Even with the administration's continuing
stonewalling against any independent investigation into the
mistreatment of detainees, we continue to learn of more abuses on an
almost daily basis. Does anybody question that if American POWs were
being treated in this way, we would have demonstrations in the streets
of America, and everybody from the President down through every single
Member of Congress would be up in arms and calling for changes? But
when these actions take place at Guantanamo, the administration refuses
to acknowledge any wrongdoing. The dangerous implications that this
posture has for our own troops and citizens becomes more obvious every
day."
Article here
"Senate Democratic whip Dick Durbin was forced to apologize for likening the treatment of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay to that of the Soviet gulag, Hitler's death camps, and the Cambodian killing fields. What was striking was the matter-of-fact manner in which Durbin drew the parallel in the first place. He seemed to be oblivious to the possibility he might be seen as worrying more about the detainees than about America's national security."
Found this through a general web search...from the Weekly Standard.
This one mentions Dick Durbin and crazy Nancy Pelosi.
Come on back aaronbarlow
crazy parnoid conservatives.
I just thought of a new party:
The Conservative Party of America
**You don't deserve the name: The Republican Party...because you all are a disgrace to the name of Abraham Lincoln, and those who fought for equality, justice, association, religion, and such.**
WOW! I love your blog site. I will be sure to add you to my blogroll as soon as possible. Keep up the writing.
Way to go Nurseboy. My point exactly.
Ever see the movie, 'Meet the Parents'?
"I simply stated a fact, not taking either side, and I get attacked."
Yet another thing that I love about Liberals. A Republican (not necessarily a Conservative), but a Republican gives facts and proves the Liberal standpoint wrong and the next words coming out of their mouths are ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK.
If you consider the name nursenancy as an attack, you need to grow a thicker skin my friend.
Probably is a word we can use very loosely here. I'd venture to say Probably not. You are a typical liberal because you use phrases such as, "I guess I should feel sorry for you" or even, "I would suggest, trying a better attitude, people may actually listen to what you are saying."
Do not tell us what you guess or what you suggest, I don't care how you think, stick to facts. People may actually listen to you if you wouldn't tell us what you think or how you feel.
So you're saying that Republicans support opinions and Liberals support facts?
Nurse boy, guess you were not bright enought to be a Doctor.
Leave my boy alone. Sure his daddy and i would have liked for him to have gotten a job more manly, but I'd rather have a sissy that we're proud of than one that is so manly they like other men.
Don't make me hit you with my stethoscope.
You just wait until your father gets home, no enema for you tonight.
Nurseboy,
Do you like giving or receiving enemas?
Nurseboy,
Now you know how Bush must feel with the attacks on him from the left...do you still see it from their side?
Thank you Cranky Right, if you disagree with anothers' view, please by all means, voice your opinion but do so in a mature manner.
Very good...just checking.
So, ole aaronbarlow tried to attack myself and Crankyright and he has enabled comment moderation...if he doesn't like the comment, it will not get posted. Here is the piece of shit he wrote and below this link is my response. It is long and I do apologize...
Wah, Wah, Republicans are better, Wah, Wah
“Over the past forty years, the right has worked hard at developing strategies that would allow them to control public discussion in America. Long before Democrats figured out what was happening, the right had learned to frame the debate by controlling the terminology…almost completely because of the skills of the rightwing strategists.”
Basically you are calling the Democrats over the past 40 years dumb! These “skills” you talk about of the ‘rightwing strategists’- would that not be classified as intelligence?
“Today, they have to defend an administration whose policies have failed and continue to fail, and whose minions are showing up as corrupt on an almost weekly basis”
Let me ask you about the Clinton Administration- do you not consider lying under oath as a corrupt administration? I mean, let us look at his administration
- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court
“Second, people on the left have learned by example, and are now framing the national debates as skillfully as the right once did…”
Left learning by example implies you mean from the Right. So are you saying the left is too dumb that they must rely upon the Right for guidance and leadership skills?
“In the 1970s, the right saw a divide within the left that it could use for a number of purposes…”
What about this year, just recently, when the Left was divided yet again? You remember Joe Lieberman versus the Democratic Party? Or even Hitlery Rotten Clinton versus John “I have a plan” Kerry? I know, I know…what about John McCain, Warner or Lindsey? Can you say RINO? For those democrats that Aaron called dumb in the beginning, this stands for Republican in Name Only.
“Liberals believe in debate and in respect for opponents”
Respect for opponents? What’s your excuse for Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean, John Kerry, or even John Murtha- who seemingly have no respect for their opponents. Seems like all they care about is “scoring points and making their opponents look bad to whomever might be watching”, wait that’s your line…my bad.
“I didn’t have to look far before seeing a typical rightwing straw man…frame the debate in such a way as only the right can win…”
Please elaborate on how I ‘framed the debate in a way as only the right can win’? Examples were given to you by me and other Conservative-Majority readers, yet you chose to dismiss them. How can you honestly dismiss the ACLU? However you did.
I need your definition of what torture is/or should be. Essentially, no matter how you look at it, ceasing torture is being nicer to terrorists. The ACLU website (which you refused to accept) had an organizational member mention being nice because they (terrorists) are human, too. You can do the research, please realize that I cannot do both yours and my side in this. However, if you truly need leadership with this, I suppose you can rely upon me for guidance.
“Thing about us liberals is that we tend to want to keep on talking, hoping that the other side will eventually listen to reason”
Let’s be honest again, it has nothing to do with the other side listening to reason. It goes back to “if you say it enough, people will eventually believe it.” No wonder why we hear so much from Pelosi and Kerry.
“Yes, it does take a lot to make a liberal angry—it took an attack on Pearl Harbor for the liberal Roosevelt administration to go to war—but we can only be pushed so far.”
Too bad the 1993 WTC bombing (by al-Qaeda), 1996 Khobar Towers attacked (by al-Qaeda), 1998 U.S. embassies bombed (by al-Qaeda), 2000 USS Cole attacked (by al-Qaeda), did not push the Liberals far enough to be angry.
You say that you’re not going “to bother” to tell us during debates, but my question is this. Is it truly because you’re not going to bother or is it because if the right has to ask, then how in the hell would you know?
You write about mischaracterization, but come on professor, even Gilligan knows Liberals are more infamous for their character assassinations of the Right. “Appealing to history…Stick to what is going on now…”? On yeah, this is the Liberal excuse so no blame can be put on the Clinton years. *Please refer to the al-Qaeda attacks listed above.
Yes, the U.S. was the result of Liberal philosophies but professor you’re smart enough to realize the Liberals of today are different from yesteryear. Damn it, that’s right you want to forget history and go with what is happening now.
“We created the greatest country this world has ever seen and fought—and defeated—the greatest evils brought upon it…”
The greatest evils brought upon it…really inspiring words you’ve written. So, what is the Left’s plan to fight terrorism? Or to capture real evil that attacked the greatest country this world has ever seen under the watch of Bill Clinton?
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