So, ole aaronbarlow tried to attack myself and Crankyright and he has enabled comment moderation...if he doesn't like the comment, it will not get posted. Here is the piece of shit he wrote and below this link is my response. It is long and I do apologize...
Wah, Wah, Republicans are better, Wah, Wah“Over the past forty years, the right has worked hard at developing strategies that would allow them to control public discussion in America. Long before Democrats figured out what was happening, the right had learned to frame the debate by controlling the terminology…almost completely because of the skills of the rightwing strategists.”So basically you are calling the Democrats over the past 40 years dumb! These “skills” you talk about of the ‘rightwing strategists’- would that not be classified as intelligence?
“Today, they have to defend an administration whose policies have failed and continue to fail, and whose minions are showing up as corrupt on an almost weekly basis”Let me ask you about the Clinton Administration- do you not consider lying under oath as a corrupt administration? I mean, let us look at his administration
- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court
“Second, people on the left have learned by example, and are now framing the national debates as skillfully as the right once did…”Left learning by example implies you mean from the Right. So are you saying the left is too dumb that they must rely upon the Right for guidance and leadership skills?
“In the 1970s, the right saw a divide within the left that it could use for a number of purposes…”What about this year, just recently, when the Left was divided yet again? You remember Joe Lieberman versus the Democratic Party? Or even Hitlery Rotten Clinton versus John “I have a plan” Kerry? I know, I know…what about John McCain, Warner or Lindsey? Can you say RINO? For those democrats that Aaron called dumb in the beginning, this stands for Republican in Name Only.
“Liberals believe in debate and in respect for opponents”Respect for opponents? What’s your excuse for Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean, John Kerry, or even John Murtha- who seemingly have no respect for their opponents. Seems like all they care about is “scoring points and making their opponents look bad to whomever might be watching”, wait that’s your line…my bad.
“I didn’t have to look far before seeing a typical rightwing straw man…frame the debate in such a way as only the right can win…”Please elaborate on how I ‘framed the debate in a way as only the right can win’? Examples were given to you by me and other Conservative-Majority readers, yet you chose to dismiss them. How can you honestly dismiss the ACLU? However you did.
I need your definition of what torture is/or should be. Essentially, no matter how you look at it, ceasing torture is being nicer to terrorists. The ACLU website (which you refused to accept) had an organizational member mention being nice because they (terrorists) are human, too. You can do the research, please realize that I cannot do both yours and my side in this. However, if you truly need leadership with this, I suppose you can rely upon me for guidance.
“Thing about us liberals is that we tend to want to keep on talking, hoping that the other side will eventually listen to reason”Let’s be honest again, it has nothing to do with the other side listening to reason. It goes back to “if you say it enough, people will eventually believe it.” No wonder why we hear so much from Pelosi and Kerry.
“Yes, it does take a lot to make a liberal angry—it took an attack on Pearl Harbor for the liberal Roosevelt administration to go to war—but we can only be pushed so far.”Too bad the 1993 WTC bombing (by al-Qaeda), 1996 Khobar Towers attacked (by al-Qaeda), 1998 U.S. embassies bombed (by al-Qaeda), 2000 USS Cole attacked (by al-Qaeda), did not push the Liberals far enough to be angry.
You say that you’re not going “to bother” to tell us during debates, but my question is this. Is it truly because you’re not going to bother or is it because if the right has to ask, then how in the hell would you know?
You write about mischaracterization, but come on professor, even Gilligan knows Liberals are more infamous for their character assassinations of the Right. “Appealing to history…Stick to what is going on now…”? On yeah, this is the Liberal excuse so no blame can be put on the Clinton years. *Please refer to the al-Qaeda attacks listed above.
Yes, the U.S. was the result of Liberal philosophies but professor you’re smart enough to realize the Liberals of today are different from yesteryear. Damn it, that’s right you want to forget history and go with what is happening now.
“We created the greatest country this world has ever seen and fought—and defeated—the greatest evils brought upon it…”The greatest evils brought upon it…really inspiring words you’ve written. So, what is the Left’s plan to fight terrorism? Or to capture real evil that attacked the greatest country this world has ever seen under the watch of Bill Clinton?
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