Guilty by Reason of Insanity...
Today in Houston, TX, Andrea Yates was found Not Guilty by Reason of insanity but I agree with one of the jurors, the reading should have been as the title suggest: "Guilty by Reason of Insanity".With the verdict being in her favor, she will be committed to a state mental hospital which will have periodic hearings before a judge to determine if she should be released. Possible thinking by political figures is that she will be able to go back to being "sane". My question is this, if she goes back to "sane", realizes what she did when she drowned her 5 children (ages 6 months-7 years old), what will happen if she becomes "insane" again?
For Yates, this was the second trial for her in which jury members elaborated for a total of 11 hours on Monday and Tuesday before determining that Yates is legally insane. According to the article on breitbart.com, "Yates' attorneys said she suffered from severe postpartum psychosis and, in a delusional state, thought Satan was inside her and she was trying to save the children from hell."
My Wife and I, we have a little girl and my Wife, just like many mothers are affected by Postpartum depression. HOWEVER, they have medicine or happy pills for these individuals. I have read no where that Yates had a prescription for this medication. If she had no medication that is by choice, therefore you cannot claim she was insane because at any point in time she could have began taking the medicine. The problem is in the fact many do not "think" or "feel" that they have a problem. I know someone will confirm or deny my story with an actual article, but if I am right...then being determined "Legally Insane" should have never been an option. Also, I read months ago that she did not begin acting insane until after the 1st trial verdict. Makes you think that maybe her lawyers said, "Hey...Andrea...act like a KOOK and we can get you off for insanity. You'll be in a mental hospital for X months, you return back to your "normal self" and boom, you and Mr. Yates live happily ever after".
I look forward to your comments and responses, I believe whole heartedly this will be a HOT TOPIC.
posted by Diego @ 4:11 PM
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Whoa! Yes, indeed this is a rather hot, hot topic and I have a looot to say, however, my show is on and will get to it tonight if not tomorrow. See ya then!!
Since you obviously have no knowledge of mental illness or how the legal system deals with this it may benefit you to look up some information.
Being sent to a mental health institution is no walk in the park. It will be just like jail but with a treatment compentent. Also she will never be released. John Hinkley remains in such a place and he shot a president. Such a plea takes into account what is in the best interest of all parties.
In fact the majority of people who plead NGRI actually spend more time in a mental institution than they would if they would have just gone to prison.
I believe that ANYONE who hurts a child, must pay the price. Actually, I know that mental illness is very wide spread, but the signs were there for her husband to take heed of. He should be held just as responsible as her, when he didn't keep a close eye out on his children, in her care. Certainly, he had to have known SOMETHING. It's a horrible crime, just like Susan Smith's crime...and I hope that she DOES stay in the mental hospital. If she ever does over come her "psychosis" or whatever mental illness she has been diagnosed with, she will be one ill woman, just coping with the fact that she murdered her 5 children. She methodically chased them down (especially the last one) and held them down, one by one, waiting until they quit breathing. God help us if we don't start noticing the signs, or start taking better precautions for our children.
No knowledge, that's a rather large assumption that you made. My best friends Uncle stabbed and killed a man. He went to a Mental Institution after being declared "Insane" with having schizophrenia. 7 different people living inside of him and not one would get a fucking job.
Regardless, 6 years after the heinous crime he was let go. Given heavy doses of medication, became a zomby...until he decided to stop taking it (his choice- not the doctor's).
Yates is 42 years old, if she spends twice as long as my friend's Uncle, she is out before she's 55 years old. 55 is young, a lot of life yet to be lived.
However, she is a murderer x's FIVE. Maybe it would benefit you to keep an open mind in the fact many people deal with people like Yates more than YOU know.
Bitch drowned her five children and yet was not found guilty? I can't even look at her without wanting to stab her in the eyes with my pen. how did her head get shoved out of the legal system's ass so fast for a crime she clearly did and not to mention THE OBVIOUS she knew what she was doing thus meaning her mind state was clear and conscious. God knows why she did it (NOT psychotic)nor was she trying to save her kids. But I know one thing Yates seriously is my fucking hero for out smarting the jury. By reason of insanity?? Oh come on give me a break you want insanity take a good hard look at Michael Jackson's plastic surgeon. We all learn as kids that when we do wrong we get harsh treatment for it. Why must we want to have to ridicule them and use medical terms as excuses for our fucked up mistakes/acts? This is a political/sanity spectrum and a good laugh. uhh, right. Just fucking brilliant, what a system. really. I am feeling the need to take grade 12 law all over again because i am puzzeled with the turnaround in all this and how pathetic the law system truly is. by reason of insanity?? this deserves proper contemplation than what i am giving now but seriously this is all hurting my head as if i am having a neurotic episode over all this.
alright alright.... back to tea and baths and extravagant orgasms
p.s. thanks for letting her exist.
It will not be easy whatsoever for Yates. She has committed an act that she will be unable to ever undo. Unfortunately though, I am not for sure if she was in the correct state of mind. Diego you are right about post-partum affecting many mothers but you are wrong that medicine always works. With my brother's wife she took medicine after the birth of their little boy and she constantly commented that she felt as if she had "no feelings of emotion". She did not love and she did not hate.
She is a perfectly normal human-being, who has a great job, a great family and one that you would not suspect of having these feelings. It was not her, it was the medication.
Post-partum has an effect that many cannot fathom. Unless you've lived one day in the life of a mother who has suffered from this form of depression you cannot truly comment because you have no experience. None. Nothing to go on.
Eventually she will become "well" again and she will be able to go on with her life. Yet, she will have to deal with the actions she invoked upon her five children. There is no sense in dwelling in the past, what is done is done, and the verdict has been decided. It is time for her and everyone else to just move on.
In the UK, if someone refuses to take their medication, the insnity is seen as self induced, and thus the act voluntary. damn right too.
For most of us, what she did is unimaginable. Most of us do not have a mental illness, though. I don't know if she was nuts or not, that's up to the psych folks to determine.
From what I know, there were plenty of warning signs that her family and husband should have acted on. I believe that Andrea, her husband, and their families will be paying for it with unmeasurable guilt for the remainder of their time on earth, regardless of what some jury said. No one "got off" by NGRI.
Angel
You are correct, anonymous. This was a no win situation, for the legal profession, for the Yates family, for the Mental Institutions, etc. The real problem is how ill (if she isn't already) is Andrea going to be, when they take her off of all those drugs to keep her calm? When she comes down to reality, which she will at one point, it's going to be a day of reckoning, and a litter hell for her when she finally realizes that her children are gone. I cannot imagine anything worse, than losing your kids. NOTHING!
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