Sunday, August 13, 2006

Liberals are like a pretzel...very twisted.

The blog topic today is something that I have been thinking about for a couple of weeks now and I have decided to put my thoughts viewable to you, the reader. I am trying to understand the thought process of Liberals.

By examining this, this leads an individual to believe that Liberals are truly twisted in their way of thinking. I remember a time when telling ½ the truth was considered a lie, that is, until Democrats began using this tactic in Politics. This brings me to the Liberal Media, and how can someone listen to this bile and actually believe what they hear?

Flipping through the channels, stopping on CNN, MSNBC, I wonder what happened to being a proud citizen of the United States? A friend of mine was telling me that when he was growing up in Maine, it was common to walk into a store and see a picture of the President of the United States. What happened with that thought? Perhaps Clinton’s antics and scandals stripped Americans of this pride?

On Saturday I had a conversation (if you can consider it that) with a Liberal and I kept noticing that the gentleman kept on referring to how he “felt” and what he “thought”. As a Conservative, I do my best to give facts when proving a point. What I learned from the conversation with the Lib is that when given facts, and they have nothing else to go by, they will retaliate with character assassinations. They would rather demean the credentials of the individual with fallacies in hopes of avoiding giving answers. By the way, Billy…yes, Jesus rode a Donkey but NO, he was not a LIBERAL. Remember, Jesus feeding 5,000 was not a charity but was a Miracle.

Last, I wonder how anyone would want to be dependent upon somebody else. I believe we have to be individuals and I do not believe we need big Government control. Liberals however rely upon leeches sucking the Government for all they can get, because these are the ones who cast their vote for the Democrat/Liberal Party. Remember, Jesus made men into fishermen, not Welfare Recipients.

If you have a problem with Liberals like I do, here is your chance to vent.

116 Comments:

At August 13, 2006 1:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I completely agree with this blog and I'm glad to finally see someone who even thinks along the same lines as I do.

I do not understand how someone can actually support abortion. Liberals talk about it being a woman's choice, but it is not. It is a matter of life or death and these people simply do not see it this way. They're against the killings of 2300 hundred soldiers, yet they celebrate abortion.

If you ever say this around Liberals they will deny this celebration. But it's true, abortion was brought on by Women's Rights and Liberals want women to have rights. By celebrating the rights of women to have choice, Liberals are celebrating the killing of little babies.

Another thing is how Liberals are undermining Republicans yet their party is cat-fighting amongst themselves. How can we be successful if Democrats fight amongst themselves continuously?

Answer: We can't.

With Liberals wanting people to rely upon the Government, we are teaching people not to worry, do not try to better yourself, the Government will be here for you. Personally, I think we should change the National Emblem from the Bald Eagle, to a Sow, because some of these Liberals just want a Government TIT.

 
At August 13, 2006 2:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're absolutely right...Jesus was definately NOT a Liberal:

"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household." (Matthew 10:34-36)

"I have come to cast fire upon the earth; and how I wish it were already kindled!" ... "Do you suppose that I came to grant peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division; for from now on five members in one household will be divided, three against two and two against three." (Luke 12:49,51-53)

You guys are delusional.

 
At August 13, 2006 2:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You forgot the part that "Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in Heaven.

Yo dumbass, your second verse you use is talking about God coming back at a time when the "Masters" are not prepared.

Another thing that I love about Liberals, if they use the Bible or Facts, they always try to distort the information.

If you're going to use scripture, try and use it in its entirety.

 
At August 13, 2006 2:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's a dedication to we Conservatives:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si0WTCMrksw&search=Republicans

 
At August 13, 2006 2:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's another:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWqeuUAT0d4&search=Republicans

 
At August 13, 2006 3:15 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I invite you to:

http://gay-rights-all-the-way.blogspot.com/

 
At August 13, 2006 3:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

HAHA-Democrat4ever-NOT said...

Sorry this is a throw in comment I hope SOMEONE reads it! YOU DICK sucking, ass hole loving JERK. Personal attacks there ones for you right there!!!! You POST a blog for the PUBILC to read and you expect NO one to respond to your full of shit thoughts on life and the Bible and "verse picking" as you like to call it!
http://americans-united-glbt.blogspot.com/ For those of you who read this and wonder what I am talking about go look UNLESS of course he reads this and pussys out on me and deletes EVERYTHING on his blog.

DON'T you DARE attack a MAN that has served his country. Left his family and children behind more than once. So you could have the right to do as you choose and live. But maybe you think of him as Brian Williams of NBC does. And IF so you need to get out of this country! I will post this everywhere I can so everyone knows there are people out there like you that can attack cuss and call names as I did above, and then simply delete it and deny it! As I am sure you will! When you are done reading this it will be ok for you to cry to mommy as I am sure she is so proud of you and what you have done for your country!

HERES WHAT HE HAD TO SAY ....
THEN SHUT HIS BLOG DOWN FOR COMMENTS!!!

"So As I Thought

It is as I thought that radical conservatives cannot play it fairly. I have not minded them coming to this blog with the frame of mind to oppose everything I wrote. However, when it comes to personal attacks and then accusing me of doing the person attacks I cannot tolerate that. I do not stand by hatrid, and bigotry.

It also appears that when radicals are on the losing edge, they will do anything and everything to prove you wrong. For example, crankyright disguised himself as a gay man from a small town telling me how I should leave anonymous and irrational posts up so I people can see the true nature of radicals. Others brought up biblical passages that they barely explained. "Verse Picking" as I like to call it. Frantic to find a solution to everything, they hold on to the bible, that men wrote so they could hold power themselves.

However, the true nature of the radicals is this: They would rather want everyone else to lose their civil rights than it be protected under our constitution. They would rather want every person who is different than they not to have a voice in the democratic process. They would love their gay son or daughter as their own, but tell them how their sexual orientation is wrong. While many will send them of to be "converted." What kind of people would do this to a child? The answer: RADICAL CONSERVATIVES!"

 
At August 14, 2006 8:51 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wish you would post one on why we hate conservatives, bet you would get more responces...

 
At August 14, 2006 8:54 AM, Blogger Diego said...

So tell us why you hate conservatives...let's hear ya!

 
At August 14, 2006 12:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

wo hoh...The Republican paranoia.

 
At August 14, 2006 12:22 PM, Blogger Diego said...

And that's the best response we can get thus far? Come on. There is no paranoia, just waiting on some answers from a Lib. Of course though, some of my questions would actually involve Liberals having to use facts and with Liberals, that ain't gonna happen.

 
At August 14, 2006 12:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

and with conservatives, you don't get workable solutions. Woh oh...here comes the Conservative Cheerleading Squad.

 
At August 14, 2006 12:29 PM, Blogger Diego said...

The Democrat Plan and Kerry's Plan are alike because they are unknown...thus no one gets ANY solutions, what's your point?

 
At August 14, 2006 12:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

And your "Contract on America" is? BULL...CRAP...

 
At August 14, 2006 12:32 PM, Blogger Diego said...

Do me a favor and answer this question...What is the Democrat Plan for Iraq, War on Terrorism, etc? Answer this question, but I know your typical Democrat response will be by answering my question with a question of your own.

Let's hear it, other wise stop bitching about a plan until your Party comes out with one of their own.

 
At August 14, 2006 12:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Democrat party today announced that it is changing their emblem from a donkey to a CONDOM because it more accurately reflects their political stance.

A condom allows for inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation, protects a bunch of pricks, and gives you a sense of security while you're actually being screwed.

 
At August 14, 2006 12:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well...I can tell you this...The Republican plan hasn't worked, so when Democrats shred up that "Contract on America" this fall, maybe they'll do a better job handling Iraq.

 
At August 14, 2006 12:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Republican party today announced that it is changing their emblem from a Elephant to a cross because it more accurately reflects their political stance.

A cross allows for fear, halts abortion, destroys democracy, protects a bunch of pricks like Phelps, and gives you a sense of security while you're actually being fucked.

 
At August 14, 2006 12:39 PM, Blogger Diego said...

I don't want to read whether or not you think the plan has or hasn't worked...answer the questions.

-What is the Democrat Plan for Iraq,

-War on Terrorism, etc?

Stop giving sound bytes that you've seen on CNN or MSNBC, let us know what the plan is.

 
At August 14, 2006 12:43 PM, Blogger Diego said...

Now that's just lame, is that how lame Democrats truly are? Well...that goes to show how smart Democrats are, they take what a Republican has written (commonly known as a plan), change a few words here and there and BAM!!! Original work.

Annonymous you should change your name to Jayson Blair

 
At August 14, 2006 12:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wo oh...you answered my question with a question.

 
At August 14, 2006 12:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Poor conservative can't take the FACTS...the FACTS that the Republican Contract on America and it's handling of the Iraq War had failed.

 
At August 14, 2006 12:46 PM, Blogger Diego said...

1st off, you never asked a question. 2nd, Jacob Howard posted that comment but then deleted it, I was able to get it reposted. To visit his site go to:

http://gay-rights-all-the-way.blogspot.com/

 
At August 14, 2006 12:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow...he's on the offensive.

 
At August 14, 2006 12:47 PM, Blogger Diego said...

Do you mean defensive? LOL

 
At August 14, 2006 12:55 PM, Blogger Diego said...

You said "A cross allows for fear...and gives you a sense of security while you're actually being fucked."

How can it allow for fear AND give a sense of security?

Do you honestly think about what you write before you write it, I give you an "A" for effort but a "D" for

DUMBASS.

 
At August 14, 2006 12:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

LMAO...you're all so smart...so what's was plans do Republicans have if they are re-elected?














































































You got that right...absolutely nothing.

 
At August 14, 2006 1:08 PM, Blogger Diego said...

Is it possible for you to come up with your own post with your own original ideas?

How's it feel being a puppet who repeats sound bytes from what you hear on CNN, MSNBC, CBS?

I'm still waiting on the answer to my question, you're not intelligent enough to realize the Dem's have no plan, except to fight amongst themselves.

I'll save your ass on this one and go away from my original question...Next Question- how much pride do you have knowing your Party is feuding amongst themselves? John "I have a Plan" Kerry Vs Hitlery Rotten Clinton or even the Dem's Vs Lieberman.

Maybe you can actually answer this question...well, do not let me give you too much credit, I'll make it easier for you...

A.) I'm a Liberal, I have no pride whatsoever

B.) I'm a Democrat, I have no pride whatsoever

C.) The Democrats are feuding?

D.) All of the Above

Good Luck

 
At August 14, 2006 1:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

C'mon he gave you a question with multiple choice answers, how long is it going to take you to answer?

 
At August 14, 2006 1:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

my answer:

NONE OF THE ABOVE...because those are Republican answers. HAHAHAHAHAHA.


Here's what I think:

REPUBLICANS=NEO-COMMUNIST

 
At August 14, 2006 1:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

C'mon give us factual information not what you think or how you feel. No one cares what you think.

 
At August 14, 2006 1:28 PM, Blogger Diego said...

Tap Water Temperature I.Q.- don't go overboard and give em too much credit.

 
At August 14, 2006 1:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Too bad McCarthy is dead. Communists.

 
At August 14, 2006 1:35 PM, Blogger Diego said...

Proving my point once again that when Liberals have nothing else to go by, they revert to character assassination. You're so predictable, and such a Puppet. Do you like the fist?

 
At August 14, 2006 1:43 PM, Blogger Diego said...

Cranky, Why did you do that?? You've just laid the groundwork for the Democrats to actually begin to have a plan...you and I both know it takes a Republican to get things started for the Libs. And then it takes a Republican to get the job done.

 
At August 14, 2006 4:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

crankyright wrote: 1. Double the Abortion rate in America. (After all it not murder because the Liberal judges said so.)

Why is it murder though?

 
At August 14, 2006 5:37 PM, Blogger Diego said...

Very well spoken Cranky and to think that Liberals have found a way to justify these murders through "embryonic stem cell research" which has found zero...0...None...nada...advancements in fighting potential diseases. However, Adult stem cell research has.

Like I said earlier though, Liberals celebrate abortion by putting a "women's rights" spin on it. Being honest with eachother, murder is murder.

 
At August 14, 2006 6:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Double murder in this instance can occur nationally.

 
At August 14, 2006 6:21 PM, Blogger Diego said...

Now that is funny.

 
At August 14, 2006 6:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What I meant by this is that in many states other than Alabama consider murdering a pregnant woman as double murder, remember Scott Peterson, and there have been 4 instances in Illinois that the verdict was double murder. I'm not disagreeing with you, but agreeing with your point.

 
At August 14, 2006 7:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right turns ONLY said...

little slow tonight...and I am a little blonde

...no kidding.

Let ME explain things, in terms you won't possibly understand.

On second though, it would be a waste of my time. So you folks go read this: http://faculty.nwacc.edu/lschulte/documents/ADefenseofAbortion.doc

amd this (section 7.1): http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/identity-ethics/#EmbResAbo

then MAYBE you'll have the minimum background knowledge necessary to hold a minimally informed opinion on the subject.

Yours with the utmost contempt,

Brian

 
At August 14, 2006 7:36 PM, Blogger Diego said...

I find it funny that someone would actually reference something from a Community College, let a lone a Community college in Northwest Arkansas!!!!

The article you graciously gave us mentions "you wake up one morning after being kidnapped and you're lying next to an unconscious violinist...". It goes on to say the violinist is depending upon you for his life, for 9 months or even 9 years, the paper then says "...you were kidnapped; you didn't volunter for the operation...", but I'm sorry if a woman chooses to have sex then ultimately she is volunteering to become pregnant. It is a consequence just like contracting a disease is a consequence.

Your links use off the wall, whacky scenarios to try and explain why abortion is o.k. It failed.

Next, I want actual facts that can pinpoint exactly were embryionic stem cell research has been successful. It has not been after 20 years, and after Bush's veto recently, I doubt it ever will.

Nice try though, as stated earlier, I'll give you an "A" for effort and a "D" for
Dumbass.

 
At August 14, 2006 7:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Abortion is murder because:

When a sperm and an egg combine to make one cell, a new and unique life is created. That life needs the nurturing environment of the womb to grow, but it is still a separate life from that of the mother.

By the time that a woman knows she is pregnant, that one little cell has turned into a sizeable group of cells firmly implanted and growing in a sac in the uterus. By the time one would consider abortion, that embryo has eyes, arms, legs, fingers, and toes,a heart that is beating, and a little brain. Sounds like a real live human, doesn't it?

How is it not murder to prevent a blastocyst from implanting in the endometrium? How is it not murder to expell an embryo from the uterus with RU486? How is it not murder to tear a 8" fetus into bits and pull it from the uterus? How is it not murder to suck the brain out of a breech baby before it takes its first breath? How is it not murder to put your newborn in a trashbag in a dumpster? They are all human babies at different stages of development, but they are just that--human babies. Murder of one of these is the same as murder of any of the others.

Most people have heard of the Hippocratic Oath. The original states that a physician will not administer an abortifactant. Convenient that that's been edited out. Also, physicans may also take the Oath of Geneva, 1948 which states "I will maintain the utmost respect for human life from the moment of conception." The writers of both of these oaths saw that the destruction of human life was a dangerous thing morally and that physicians should not practice it. Society's shifting ethics and morals of convenience have taken their toll.

 
At August 14, 2006 7:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOL...I saved this document to my c:/ and I was curious to see how well written it was, so I clicked on spelling/grammar, twenty-six errors...

TWENTY-SIX ERRORS were found and YOU WANT US TO BELIEVE THIS BILE? C'mon...try something else.

 
At August 14, 2006 7:47 PM, Blogger Diego said...

Brian, show me one time were a woman laid with a man and produced anything other than a human child? Has it happened? Never, not once. End of argument.

 
At August 14, 2006 7:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We blondes have to stick up for each other--no one else gives us any 'props'.

The breastfeeding stay at home moms unite!

 
At August 14, 2006 7:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not even going to bother with RTO's barely literate reply...mostly bacause I have no idea what the heck she's talking about, but also because there might have been an implied threat at the end there, so if this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_force) is the argument she must appeal to then i don't see much weight to anything she says.

CrankyRight,

Oh my...didn't really think that one through did you?

The paper I linked you to (as it stated in the THIRD LINE) was published in the Journal of Philosophy and Public Affairs, Vol. 1, No. 1, p. 47. And written by a well known philosopher currently working at MIT, named Judith Jarvis Thompson.

Your numbskull mistake aside, what if it had of been written by someone at a CC? I can't imagine not taking his/her writing seriously while at the same time reading what you have to say. Community College or not, any of them are bounds more qualified than yourself and that blathering RTO.

Angel,

All of those questions you leave open in the middle paragraph are answered in the paper I linked to earlier. You should check it out.

 
At August 14, 2006 7:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

On a more serious note, abortion in any way shape or form is very disturbing and upsetting. I thought I 'toned it down' a little, but I wanted to make sure I got my point across to the baby killers.

 
At August 14, 2006 8:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't want to read an article with someone elses thoughts. I use my brain and come up with original thoughts, surely you can too. Answer the questions.

 
At August 14, 2006 8:07 PM, Blogger Diego said...

Brian you're lucky...chances are you were a coat hanger away from being a statistic...

Why the fuck would anyone use something from wikipedia? Anyone with common sense knows that an individual can post any definition they want and it will be accepted.

Your philosopher is so great that good ole Judith forgot to do spell check and had a lot of errors in the argument AND THE PAPER AS WELL.

Give us facts not analogies Coat Hanger boy.

 
At August 14, 2006 8:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Typical fucking Liberal- get off the subject to avoid the tough questions, fall back on Abortion and...wait...I'm surprised he hasn't brought Religion into this one yet. Hmmm...let me get my Bible...

 
At August 14, 2006 8:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're familiar with Thompson, CrankyRight?

Seems strange that you'd make such a glaring mistake concerning the source of her MOST FAMOUS article. But oh well, I suppose that teaches me for expecting consistancy, or even honesty from you.

A crackpot? You're doubting the legitimacy of someone who thinks and writes about these things professionaly, full time? You have incredible gaul. But once again, what should I expect from someone who thinks Stanford isn't a reputible institution...

Yours in Women's rights,

Brian

 
At August 14, 2006 8:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did he get scared and go home to Momma? Is he googling a reply? Maybe just cutting and pasting from Wikipedia and somebody's freshman philosophy essay.

I hope no one made him cry.

 
At August 14, 2006 8:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, there he is. But I assumed that you would have some sort of factual reply...

My mistake.

I am a woman, I believe in womens right to vote, to work, to own property, etc. I do not believe a woman has a right to murder her child for socioeconomic reasons. Period.

 
At August 14, 2006 8:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

On spelling and grammar:

The pages have imbedded notation indicating page breaks in the original published document. As well as citations, proper names and a couple words (good Semaritanism...it's biblical, ya with me?) that MS Word (in all its infallibility, doesn't recognize.

Still dont' see how that might limit her arguments. The substance of which none of you have yet addressed.

 
At August 14, 2006 8:15 PM, Blogger Diego said...

Hey McFly! I was the one that made the reference but you keep reverting back to Cranky...so dumbass...let me explain this real sssssslllllllooooowwwww...

Jayson Blair wrote for the NY Times professionally, Dan Rather reported news professionally and Bill Clinton was a President "professionally"...

Just because you use the word professionally does not mean SHIT.

 
At August 14, 2006 8:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh, my mistake. please accept my apologies CrankyRight, although you remain a blockhead, it is not because you mistook the author or the source of the paper.

Diego, you are a moron of the highest order. Congradulations on not falling down more often.

 
At August 14, 2006 8:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop citing other people and use the brain that God gave you.

How is abortion not murder?

 
At August 14, 2006 8:20 PM, Blogger Diego said...

LOL...Brian, I do believe Angel has more of an insight than you do, unless we should refer to you from here on out as Brianna?

My bad about the spell check, re-do it and you will see there is 24 mistakes taking into account the notation.

You're now making excuses, first you were supporting and now you're making excuses...you know what they say...Excuses are like buttholes, everyone has one and they stink.

Come on BRIANNA!!!!

 
At August 14, 2006 8:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay all, in Angel's oh so poetic turn of phrase: "I do not believe a woman has a right to murder her child"

You believe this because of moral precepts that you hold to be true. Others hold different moral precepts to be true, likely with the same passion and vigour as yourselves.

What gives you the right to force a woman to live by an edict in which she does not believe? What gives you the right to decide that her rights over her body are outweighed by the fetus' rights?

 
At August 14, 2006 8:25 PM, Blogger Diego said...

All Right (pun intended)...the Liberal side is coming out in Brianna!!! I wish you'd throw around facts the way you try to throw around insults!!!

How hard is it? To live in a world were you are outnumbered? How hard is it? To live in a world that you have to lie to yourself to avoid the truth? How hard is it...to be you, a person no one truly takes serious?

Oh yeah, you might want to do spell check...it's congratulations not congradulations. That's a shame, you would have lost my niece's 4th grade spelling bee, that was the word that brought home Kristy the championship!

 
At August 14, 2006 8:33 PM, Blogger Diego said...

Think about this...

If a person does not want to go to jail, they avoid circumstances that would land them in jail.

If a person does not want the responisibility of carrying a life inside their body, do not participate in sexual relations which could and would produce a baby.

It's that simple. If you do not want to face the consequences, then do not do the deed.

 
At August 14, 2006 8:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Deigo will you make a separate blog on Abortion ONLY.... UGH Brain SHUT UP alreay! To bad Democrat4ever left you and him would have been gay.. *cough* I mean great friends!

For the 4th time,
How is abortion not murder?

Don't send us links give us in your words true facts!

 
At August 14, 2006 8:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

neat comments fellas...real snappy stuff.

Unfortunately neither answers the questions I posed:

What gives you the right to force a woman to live by an edict in which she does not believe? What gives you the right to decide that her rights over her body are outweighed by the fetus' rights?

 
At August 14, 2006 8:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me tell you how we can "force" a woman to have a child and take away the "right over her body in favor of a fetus'" (paraphrased).

We can't. She exercised her rights over her body when she had sex. We didn't force her to have sex. Less than 1% of abortions are performed due to rape or incest, therefore the other 99% knew what they were doing and they knew the consequences.

What do you get from sex? Babies, herpes, hepatitis, AIDS, HPV, cervical cancer, trich, chlamydia, gonorrhea, PID. Should I go on? Personally, I would pick the baby from the above list. When you have sex, condom or not, you have to be aware of the possible results. 5th graders are taught this stuff in our government schools, so you can't plead ignorant. If you don't want these things, then don't screw around.

Society has to have a common set of morals or it cannot stand. Our constitution and our country were built on JudeoChristian beliefs. Things like abortion on demand and gay marriage were not included in our founding documents because such morally reprehnsible acts were beyond imagination at that time.

Ted Bundy did not find it morally wrong to murder. Why should we make him live by our rules? What about child molestors? They don't think that they are doing anything wrong either, so should we let them make their own rules?

There is a moral right and wrong.

 
At August 14, 2006 8:37 PM, Blogger Diego said...

Angel hit the nail on the head...Brianna your argument is done for...stick a coat hanger in it.

 
At August 14, 2006 8:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Diego, I completely agree with you when you write "I do believe Angel has more of an insight than you do"

She's a woman and a mother(!), she absolutely does have greater insight than myself. That's why I believe nobody has the right to decide what should go on in a woman's body other than the woman in question. In RTO and Angel's cases this meant chosing to keep their pregnencies, in many other cases is does and should continue to mean the woman has the final say in ending it.

 
At August 14, 2006 8:43 PM, Blogger Diego said...

If only it was that easy and that Black and White...it's not.

Please answer this then Brianna...2500 soldiers die and Liberals are outraged, but 1.3 MILLION babies aborted per year is CELEBRATED as Women's Rights...please give the justification between the two.

 
At August 14, 2006 8:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

to answer your question dumb ass. NO ONE even a woman with child has the right to take a life! Why does she (the mother) have the right to choose if her child lives or dies never seeing the world or taking a breath of air. So if this is so, than I have the right to take my childs life because he/she is a inconvience and or unwanted.

her right over the fetus right she did it she needs to step up to the plate and let a person live! her body is better more important than the body inside her??? why because she had the right to choose to have sex and the life inside her did not have the right. OH wait or maybe the fetus has more of a right because that life is paying for her actions! SHE should be responisble of her actions not take them out on another person....

We have answered your questions scroll back up and answers RTO or Angels. i am sure they would like to know.

 
At August 14, 2006 8:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's right. I did't have sex until I was in a position to have a baby (no pun intended). I didn't screw around when I was 15. I didn't when I was in college. I found a husband first. From medical, emotional, and financial points of view it seemed like the smart thing to do. (And that is even leaving my religious beliefs out of the argument).

As stated earlier 99% of women having an abortion had a say in "starting it", why should they get any say in "ending it"?

 
At August 14, 2006 8:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Angel, thank you...your comments suck much less than what this blog's proprietors are throwing out there.

So by your reasoning, having sex amounts to a tacit reduction in a woman's rights over her body?


"There is a moral right and wrong."

Perhaps, but you've made no convincing argument why a society's conception of these things should by the same as your conception.

founded on judeo-christian beliefs...oh boy. Now I wasn't going to bring up religion... but if you say so...

Where is it written that the 'founding principles' are things to which we must continually adhere? Which may not be changed or re-interpreted?

 
At August 14, 2006 8:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brain how old are you? Are you gay? Yes it does matter.

 
At August 14, 2006 8:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Abortionist also forget about this thing called adoption. Yes people would adopt these kids. Why do you think I have friends who went to China and Kazikstan to adopt babies? Because all the welfare mamma keep them here.

If you don't want the child or can't take care of it, then let someone else raise it. People at least advertise their puppies or take them to the Humane Society instead of killing them (which is illegal and would get you sent to jail for animal cruelty. how ironic)

 
At August 14, 2006 8:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

CR,

Male reproductive rights is an interesting topic. But it is a topic too far afield for this threat. You should post about it some time. I'd be glad to share my thoughts on the issue then.

 
At August 14, 2006 8:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Diego,

"If only it was that easy and that Black and White...it's not."

but it really is. There are absolutely no sufficient overriding concerns to prevent a woman from choosing any option she sees as right.

 
At August 14, 2006 8:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

anon,

explain why "it does matter" and I'll consider it.

 
At August 14, 2006 9:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

well, it's been lovely chatting with you folks, but that's it for today's class. Make sure and read Thompson for next time. It'll save be a lot of trouble.

Until then,

Brian

ps. slumming on this site can be exceedingly rewarding.

 
At August 14, 2006 9:04 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our Country was founded on judeo christian principles:

"[I consider] ethics, as well as religion, as supplements to law in the government of man." --Thomas Jefferson to Augustus B. Woodward, 1824. ME 16:19

It is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue.--John Adams

[W]e have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. . . . Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.--John Adams

[N]either the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.--Samuel Adams


[N]either the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.--Charles Carroll

Above signers of Declaration of Independence.

No free government now exists in the world, unless where Christianity is acknowledged, and is the religion of the country.--Pennisylvania Surpreme Ct 1824

How's that for a start?

Well, that's enough for me. Goodnight.

 
At August 15, 2006 5:13 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

LMAO...what was going on here yesterday...

 
At August 15, 2006 5:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Liberals are funny.

Thanks Libs for giving us this thread full of your typical yet humorous nonsense as well as good grammar tips.

 
At August 15, 2006 5:58 AM, Blogger Diego said...

I hope Brianna will come back and answer this...

"Please answer this then Brianna...2500 soldiers die and Liberals are outraged, but 1.3 MILLION babies aborted per year is CELEBRATED as Women's Rights...please give the justification between the two."

 
At August 15, 2006 5:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's hard to resist coming back to smack you geniuses around. What with all my fancy book-learnin, how could I not?!

Angel: How's that for a start?

Not quite adequate, I'm afraid.

I always find it laughable when people act as though, were the signers of the constitution to show up tomorrow, you'd be eager to have them running the show. Seems a little strange to want to apply things written almost 200 years ago to modern society...you know, the one with computers and stuff? But hey, nobody ever said republicans are current in their views.

Diego: Please answer this then Brianna...2500 soldiers die and Liberals are outraged, but 1.3 MILLION babies aborted per year is CELEBRATED as Women's Rights...please give the justification between the two."

Okey dokey, it'd be my pleasure to get you up to date on reality.

It's a cute tactic, comparing dead soldiers to aborted fetuses, I can see why you'd use it. It's very republican...support the troops and such, while at the same time lambasting those screwey liberals with their wacky ideas like equality and rights. But you see, they are simply not comprable cases...well they may be, but only in your desperate little mind. There are serious moral differences between a woman choosing what to do with her own body, and a president ignoring the rule of law and lying to a nation.

Do you see? no? ...didn't think so.

 
At August 15, 2006 5:50 PM, Blogger Diego said...

So are you telling me that the Soldiers did not choose to lay their life down to protect our Freedom? That they did not know what they were signing up for?

Brianna- the Military is to protect us, not to just pay for college for these men and women.

 
At August 15, 2006 6:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

alright, so you think it's important that the soldiers do what they do willingly. Okay, i suppose I can buy that. But shouldn't a willing decision also be an informed one? not a decision made having been lied to?

 
At August 15, 2006 6:08 PM, Blogger Diego said...

If you take an oath to protect our Country, to support and defend OUR Constitution against all Enemies, foreign and domestic, that they take this oath freely...what is not willingly?

Anyone who joins the Military believing they will not die in war or combat or even in peace time, is an idiot. Who cares what the individual thinks, they made a promise to you, to me, to our Country, to help protect us. Cannot put the blame on anyone else, it goes back to accountability, which Liberals cannot stand. There is no reason for someone to join the Military if they have no intensions or do not want to lay their life down in the call of DUTY.

 
At August 15, 2006 6:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very well spoken.

 
At August 15, 2006 6:54 PM, Blogger Diego said...

So...where's that "smacking" you were talking about??

 
At August 15, 2006 6:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

See Liberals cannot answer questions justifying the cut-and-run tactics versus abortion.

Brian, you epitomize true Liberalism.

 
At August 15, 2006 6:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

they made a promise to you, to me, to our Country, to help protect us

If that's the case then the people are owed a much better explanation as to how invading Iraq protects Americans. Rather than the spurious excuses we got.

 
At August 15, 2006 7:01 PM, Blogger Diego said...

Let's see...taking out Saddam Hussein helped protect Americans...helping to cut down on terrorism has helped Americans...but I know, I know...being the Liberal you are, you're going to come back and say, "But it was Republicans who made Iraq what it is...we have no business being there, losing American life for no reason" and my response to you will be this...

STOP USING SOUND BYTES FROM CNN and it's about time you start rooting for ourside you freaking Liberal Moron.

 
At August 15, 2006 7:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nick,

To the first part, you're not to bright, are you?
To the second, here there's a qoute that applies nicely:

"I know you like to use that word 'liberal' as if it were a crime...What did liberals do that was so offensive to the liberal party? I'll tell you what they did. Liberals got women the right to vote. Liberals got African-Americans the right to vote. Liberals created Social Security and lifted millions of elderly people out of poverty. Liberals ended segregation. Liberals passed the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act. Liberals created Medicare. Liberals passed the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act. What did conservatives do? They opposed them on every one of those things ­ every one. So when you try to hurl that label at my feet, 'Liberal,' as if it were something to be ashamed of, something dirty, something to run away from, it won't work, Senator. Because I will pick up that label and I will wear it as a badge of honor."

In conclusion...you're still not too bright

 
At August 15, 2006 7:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"taking out Saddam Hussein helped protect Americans...helping to cut down on terrorism has helped Americans..."

"Stop using sound bytes from CNN" [paraphrased]

my your a hipocrite. Do you even read what you write? It's unbelievable.

HOW did taking out Sadam protect Americans?

HOW did invading Iraq reduce terrorism?

You can't just say (to borrow your oft used turn of phrace) how you FEEL or BELIEVE and expect me to just accept it. How about some fact you twit?! What specifically about the removal of Hussein or the invasion itself has done either of those things?

they're just moron conservative talking points. no substance, no fact, no proof, no validity.

 
At August 15, 2006 7:15 PM, Blogger Diego said...

First off, taking out Saddam helped in the fact we have taken down his dictatorship.

Something that was also proved, was WMD did exist which, Saddam said they (WMD) had all been destroyed. Iraq was planning something big.

There are known links between Saddam and Al-Qaeda, I will not do your homework for you, you can look it up using nexus.

So, by taking down Saddam we have taken down an evil ruler who had hated the U.S.

Now Iraqi's are living with something they hadn't for a very long time...freedom. 3 elections thus far.

By the way, where was Zarqawi killed? That's right...just North of Baghdad.

So with terrorist relations in the Iraq area, we have done a great job in stabilizing the area, let me ask you this...

Do you remember what it felt like the morning of 9/11 5 years ago? Or have you Forgotten?

 
At August 15, 2006 7:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please specify in the "millions of elderly people out of poverty"? Liberals created a society that has grown dependent upon their Party, I guess it goes back to Vote Security. These people who rely on the Government to be their breadwinner would be dumb to vote against the Democratic Party, thus, they never will.

Liberals operate from a foundation of emotion and feelings while Republicans operate from a foundation of logic and facts. Liberals view people in terms of their memberships in groups, Republicans view people as individuals. Liberals think government made America great, while Republicans think that freedom is what made America great. Liberals think that people are too damn stupid to be free. Republicans think that people should be free.

Once again, you have to rely upon personal attacks because you have nothing else to go by.

 
At August 15, 2006 7:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Something that was also proved, was WMD did exist which, Saddam said they (WMD) had all been destroyed. Iraq was planning something big."

This can't just be a mistake on your part. It's an out and out lie. It's simply not true. I don't expect you to do my research for me, but you'll need some serious proof to get me to accept this fallacy.

"There are known links between Saddam and Al-Qaeda, I will not do your homework for you, you can look it up using nexus."

Bullshit. They occupy such wildly different ideological camps that 1) the only links are tenuous or fabricated; and 2) only someone like you could possibly believe this bullshit.

"Now Iraqi's are living with something they hadn't for a very long time..."

You mean civil war and a murder rate higher than anything experienced in that country for decades?

 
At August 15, 2006 7:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nick,

thank you for suming up in so few lines exactly what I and those like me think.

 
At August 15, 2006 7:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Latest Cycle Of Iraqi Troops Graduated From The Iraqi Army Noncommissioned Officer Academy ..." (Sgt. Rachel Brune, "Iraqi Cadre To Begin Training Enlisted," Centcom.com, 8/1/06)



"The Latest Iraqi NCOs Will Now Return To Their Units As Trained Leaders, While Iraqi Cadre At The Academy Prepare To Take Full Responsibility For Future Training [From American Officers] ..." (Sgt. Rachel Brune, "Iraqi Cadre To Begin Training Enlisted," Centcom.com, 8/1/06)



"Marines In Barwanah, Iraq, Say They Are Making Notable Progress Equipping The Iraqi Army With The Skills To Take Over Security Operations In This City Of 30,000 ... Northwest Of Baghdad." (Multi-National Force Iraq Website, "Iraqis, Marines Improve Haditha Security," http://www.mnf-iraq.com/, 8/3/06)

 
At August 15, 2006 7:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since The Beginning Of Operation Iraqi Freedom, "3,764 Schools Have Been Renovated And Rehabilitated." (Department Of Defense, "Operation Iraqi Freedom: Quick Facts On Iraq," 7/27/06)



"The Week Of July 11, 2006 There Were 413 Civilian Air Flights At Baghdad International Airport (An Average Of 59 Per Day)." (Department Of Defense, "Operation Iraqi Freedom: Quick Facts On Iraq," 7/27/06)



"Nationwide Electricity Availability Is On Average 11.3 Hours Per Day ... Electricity Output Since The Start Of '06 Is 6% Higher Than It Was For The Same Period In 2005." (Department Of Defense, "Operation Iraqi Freedom: Quick Facts On Iraq," 7/27/06)

 
At August 15, 2006 7:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jordanian Prime Minister Marouf Bakhit: "We will employ all our relations for the benefit of the political process, reform and understanding amongst Iraqis." (U.S. House Armed Services Committee "Jordan's King Abdullah Pledges Continued Support For Iraqi Security And Stability," Press Release, 7/28/06)



"The Premier Added That Ministers Of Both Sides [Iraqi And Jordanian] Discussed ... Increasing Trade Exchange And Energy, Stressing The Importance Of Exerting More Efforts To Increase Joint Projects." (U.S. House Armed Services Committee "Jordan's King Abdullah Pledges Continued Support For Iraqi Security And Stability," Press Release, 7/28/06)

 
At August 15, 2006 7:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"In Separate Operations Throughout Iraq Today And July 31, Coalition And Iraqi Forces Foiled A Kidnapping Attempt, Captured Eight Terrorists, And Seized Numerous Weapons ..." (Department Of Defense, "Coalition, Iraqi Soldiers Capture Kidnappers, Terrorists, Seize Weapons," Press Release, 8/2/06)



Recently, Iraqi Armed Forces Captured Five Primary Targets In Baghdad, Including Four Insurgent Cell Leaders Who Conducted Improvised Explosive Devices Attacks Against Coalition Forces. (Department Of Defense, "Iraqi Forces Search University, Target 'Death Squads'," Press Release, 8/2/06)

 
At August 15, 2006 7:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nick,

All of that is absolutely meaningless unless you can explain why they belonged there in the first place. Which you can't do.

 
At August 15, 2006 7:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

1st one: Advancements of Iraqi Security forces.
2nd: Reconstruction efforts in Iraq.
3rd: International Efforts involving Iraq.
4th: Defeating Terrorists in Iraq...

I wish you weren't so lazy that I have to do all the work for you.

 
At August 15, 2006 7:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Talking to people like Brian wants to make me bang my head on the wall. It's like talking to a parrot. You can repeat things, but you cannot come up with anything original.

I'm bored with you now, Brian. Apparently you couldn't come up with any real answers in the past 24 hours, so now you just move on to different DNC talking points. Leave or come up with something better. It's just not worth the energy.

 
At August 15, 2006 7:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

See nick, you're avoiding the question. Before those things have any value, you must explain why they had a right to be there, destroying the infrastructure in the first place. But hey, they're rebuilding it! so they must be goog guys.

 
At August 15, 2006 7:42 PM, Blogger Diego said...

What I love the most is hearing Democrats talk about "Talking Points" yet the phrase was actually coined by none other than...Rush Limbaugh.

 
At August 15, 2006 7:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So do you think Freedom is a right that SHOULD NOT be shared by everyone? I find it funny that I am being "lectured" by someone who is the Queen of avoiding questions.

 
At August 15, 2006 7:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

damnit you guys are idiots. Just skull crushingly dense.

Have a nice evening of believing you're right and making the world a better (ha) place.

 
At August 15, 2006 7:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's a "goog guy"?

 
At August 15, 2006 7:47 PM, Blogger Diego said...

Ding, Dong the Liberal's gone...the Liberal's GONE!!!

Sweet dreams...knowing the Military is protecting your ass while you sleep sound tonight.

 
At August 15, 2006 7:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's not the believing that we are right that is so satisfying as knowing that we are right. (yes, pun intended). There is no defense of untruths, so eventually libs crumble unless they find enough suckers to drink their Kool-Aid.

 
At August 16, 2006 7:13 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

AND NOW THE CONSERVATIVES ARE IN THE CORNER OF THE ROOM! WAY TO GO LIBERALS!

THEY WANTED US TO ANSWER WITH FACTS, BUT YET THEY DO NOT GIVE FACTS IN THEIR RANTING.

THEY ASKED US QUESTIONS THEY COULDN'T ANSWER WITH A STRAIGHT ANSWER.

I COMMEND YOU.

 
At August 16, 2006 7:27 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOL...that is funny, annonymous, you keep telling yourself that.

 
At August 16, 2006 8:40 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How do you get that, anonymous? Go ahead, tell yourself that the libs are winning. Did you forget to take your meds today? You seem delusional.

 
At August 17, 2006 4:59 PM, Blogger Tom said...

My socialist posts have not been a waste of bandwidth. Just a waste of time :o)

Jesus washed the feet of the poor and diseased, rather than tellign them to fuck themselves. This is all I have to say.

 
At August 17, 2006 5:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

El DUMBASS-

Once again...read this slowly...
JESUS MADE MEN INTO FISHERMAN, NOT WEED SMOKIN, CRACK SNORTIN, WASTE OF OUR OXYGEN, WELFARE RECIPIENTS.

 
At August 18, 2006 8:31 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jesus washed the feet of the 12 disciples prior to the last supper. He healed the diseased; He spoke and ate with the poor. It is not mentioned that he washed the feet of the poor and diseased. (He could have, John tells us that not everything He did was written down.)

If you want to use God's Word:

1.) Get it right. If you are unsure about a passage or a concept, I will be glad to assist you.
2.) Don't use it in conjunction with profanity. I think it is fairly obvious that my Lord would not find it amusing.

 

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